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Just said that
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It's an illusion that LJL has good touch or control. What he does have is the strength to keep his body between defenders and the ball with his back to goal even though it might bounce off him and a weaker player would be dispossessed. When he has to control the ball going forward or on the run he is poor.
To some extent this explains why the attacks tend to be one dimensional - throwing the ball up to LJL with his back to goal works for him and he sometimes releases another player. Playing the ball through or over the top for him to go after to shoot or cross usually doesn't.
He hasn't got a great touch, but then I've never claimed he had. His touch is decent enough for a 5th Division targetman-style player. The ball rarely just bounces off him (as it tended to do with some fans' favourite Cook who was utterly hopeless with his back to the goal), and you're right that his physical strength is a major part of his play. In a division where the central defenders tend to be very big and with referees willing to let all sorts of pushing and shoving occur, this is an important asset to have in a team, especially as our midfield aren't the most fluid of passers. Those who claim he has a terrible touch probably aren't considering that half the time the ball is played to him, he is being challenged by 2 players. Or perhaps they just aren't watching what is going on? I have no illusions about LJL's abilities as a player. He's no world-beater, he's not a great goalscorer and he isn't going to fire us to victory week-in, week-out. However, he will be an important part of our squad and team this season as perhaps only Pittman is an alternative as the vital physical presence up front that our style of play requires. The chances of Pittman staying fit all season are slim and therefore. If we sign another striker with a bit of size and strength such as Bogle, then LJL will perhaps be dropped to the bench at times. Until that point, it is sensible for him to be played. The incredible thing for me is that all this anti-LJL hysteria whipped up by some posters over the past week just defies belief. We've quite literally not had any other strikers available to play due to injuries this season yet there is a witch hunt against one of our two fit strikers going on across this board? This is so utterly nonsensical, I just can't understand it. On the other hand, we've had non-performances from Connell which have gone unmentioned and barely a whimper about Brown's unbelievable late miss against Dover. I can only imagine what sort of a meltdown the anti-LJL crowd would have gone into had he missed similarly. Look, we get it. You've picked your scapegoat for the season and LJL is it. Please don't feel the urge to remind us of it in every single thread, especially when there are no other options for a game due to injuries and suspensions or when he's not played badly in any case.
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I'm pretty sure that if 73% of 700ish voted in favour of keeping Hurst that the rose-tinted brigade would be lording that fact over the 'moaners'.
I cannot speak for others but I certainly wouldn't because I don't believe in the strength of such polls other than as a "which way is the wind blowing" exercise... I'm fairly convinced that if Town got a result at Gateshead and beat Alfreton and you ran the same poll next week the reaction would be significantly different... As I've said to PontoonLew I don't belong to any faction and actually don't beieve such factions exist other than in the fevered imagination of some of the posters on here...
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He hasn't got a great touch, but then I've never claimed he had. His touch is decent enough for a 5th Division targetman-style player.
The ball rarely just bounces off him (as it tended to do with some fans' favourite Cook who was utterly hopeless with his back to the goal), and you're right that his physical strength is a major part of his play. In a division where the central defenders tend to be very big and with referees willing to let all sorts of pushing and shoving occur, this is an important asset to have in a team, especially as our midfield aren't the most fluid of passers.
Those who claim he has a terrible touch probably aren't considering that half the time the ball is played to him, he is being challenged by 2 players. Or perhaps they just aren't watching what is going on?
I have no illusions about LJL's abilities as a player. He's no world-beater, he's not a great goalscorer and he isn't going to fire us to victory week-in, week-out. However, he will be an important part of our squad and team this season as perhaps only Pittman is an alternative as the vital physical presence up front that our style of play requires. The chances of Pittman staying fit all season are slim and therefore. If we sign another striker with a bit of size and strength such as Bogle, then LJL will perhaps be dropped to the bench at times. Until that point, it is sensible for him to be played.
The incredible thing for me is that all this anti-LJL hysteria whipped up by some posters over the past week just defies belief. We've quite literally not had any other strikers available to play due to injuries this season yet there is a witch hunt against one of our two fit strikers going on across this board? This is so utterly nonsensical, I just can't understand it.
On the other hand, we've had non-performances from Connell which have gone unmentioned and barely a whimper about Brown's unbelievable late miss against Dover. I can only imagine what sort of a meltdown the anti-LJL crowd would have gone into had he missed similarly.
Look, we get it. You've picked your scapegoat for the season and LJL is it. Please don't feel the urge to remind us of it in every single thread, especially when there are no other options for a game due to injuries and suspensions or when he's not played badly in any case.
You ph?
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And the Red Cross monster is busy too
Haven't you switched it off yet? I feel loads better not being able to see it..... (please note:- sun glasses not rose tinted variety...)
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Haven't you switched it off yet? I feel loads better not being able to see it..... (please note:- sun glasses not rose tinted variety...)
made me laugh barra...
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For reference, I've only marked a post with a cross once that I can remember and that was as a joke and was indicated as such. I've left the odd tick perhaps a handful of times. No conspiracy here as I don't know anybody on this board.
I've never met Hurst, never met Fenty and don't know any of the players. Everything I post is based on what I see at the matches, mostly at BP, as I'm rarely able to make an away game these days.
I try to avoid name calling, however much I think some posters might deserve it, as it is rarely helpful. Others should try the same.
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He hasn't got a great touch, but then I've never claimed he had. His touch is decent enough for a 5th Division targetman-style player.
The ball rarely just bounces off him (as it tended to do with some fans' favourite Cook who was utterly hopeless with his back to the goal), and you're right that his physical strength is a major part of his play. In a division where the central defenders tend to be very big and with referees willing to let all sorts of pushing and shoving occur, this is an important asset to have in a team, especially as our midfield aren't the most fluid of passers.
Those who claim he has a terrible touch probably aren't considering that half the time the ball is played to him, he is being challenged by 2 players. Or perhaps they just aren't watching what is going on?
I have no illusions about LJL's abilities as a player. He's no world-beater, he's not a great goalscorer and he isn't going to fire us to victory week-in, week-out. However, he will be an important part of our squad and team this season as perhaps only Pittman is an alternative as the vital physical presence up front that our style of play requires. The chances of Pittman staying fit all season are slim and therefore. If we sign another striker with a bit of size and strength such as Bogle, then LJL will perhaps be dropped to the bench at times. Until that point, it is sensible for him to be played.
The incredible thing for me is that all this anti-LJL hysteria whipped up by some posters over the past week just defies belief. We've quite literally not had any other strikers available to play due to injuries this season yet there is a witch hunt against one of our two fit strikers going on across this board? This is so utterly nonsensical, I just can't understand it.
On the other hand, we've had non-performances from Connell which have gone unmentioned and barely a whimper about Brown's unbelievable late miss against Dover. I can only imagine what sort of a meltdown the anti-LJL crowd would have gone into had he missed similarly.
Look, we get it. You've picked your scapegoat for the season and LJL is it. Please don't feel the urge to remind us of it in every single thread, especially when there are no other options for a game due to injuries and suspensions or when he's not played badly in any case.
If you ever fancy giving lessons in how to post eminently sensible contributions then please consider me as your first pupil... If I had a hat on I'd take it off to you...
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made me laugh barra...
Sometimes we forget that is what it is...a laugh (I'm as bad as anyone for that!) There are far more important things that really, really matter going on.... DISCLAIMER:- Except that PontoonLew who really should be boiled in extra virgin olive oil
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He hasn't got a great touch, but then I've never claimed he had. His touch is decent enough for a 5th Division targetman-style player.
The ball rarely just bounces off him (as it tended to do with some fans' favourite Cook who was utterly hopeless with his back to the goal), and you're right that his physical strength is a major part of his play. In a division where the central defenders tend to be very big and with referees willing to let all sorts of pushing and shoving occur, this is an important asset to have in a team, especially as our midfield aren't the most fluid of passers.
Those who claim he has a terrible touch probably aren't considering that half the time the ball is played to him, he is being challenged by 2 players. Or perhaps they just aren't watching what is going on?
I have no illusions about LJL's abilities as a player. He's no world-beater, he's not a great goalscorer and he isn't going to fire us to victory week-in, week-out. However, he will be an important part of our squad and team this season as perhaps only Pittman is an alternative as the vital physical presence up front that our style of play requires. The chances of Pittman staying fit all season are slim and therefore. If we sign another striker with a bit of size and strength such as Bogle, then LJL will perhaps be dropped to the bench at times. Until that point, it is sensible for him to be played.
The incredible thing for me is that all this anti-LJL hysteria whipped up by some posters over the past week just defies belief. We've quite literally not had any other strikers available to play due to injuries this season yet there is a witch hunt against one of our two fit strikers going on across this board? This is so utterly nonsensical, I just can't understand it.
On the other hand, we've had non-performances from Connell which have gone unmentioned and barely a whimper about Brown's unbelievable late miss against Dover. I can only imagine what sort of a meltdown the anti-LJL crowd would have gone into had he missed similarly.
Look, we get it. You've picked your scapegoat for the season and LJL is it. Please don't feel the urge to remind us of it in every single thread, especially when there are no other options for a game due to injuries and suspensions or when he's not played badly in any case.
Your not going to make many friends on here posting sensible views like this
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