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July 27, 2014, 12:22pm

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How often do the Mariners Trust board members take part in meetings with JF and other board members?

Were they not placed on the board to give us, the fans, a voice? Although certain things have been achieved by having Trust members on the board, it is clear by reading any single thread on this board that our questions/issues/doubts are NOT being answered.

Couldn't it be arranged for a bi-weekly or monthly meeting go ahead with all board members, where the Trust members get to put the fans' questions to JF? Then the meeting minutes could be posted onto the trust website, either for members only (increase membership numbers) or into the public domain for us all to see. That way, we can see the benefit of having trust members there, we can see the work being done by JF, and we can have our worries put to bed.

Of course, not all boardroom matters need to be made public, but I'd just like to see JF and the mariners trust, for the good of the club, join forces and start making some positive noises!!!

This is just an idea I have come up with in the last 15 minutes reading this thread, we clearly need a voice, and the fishy should not be a communication tool between the club and the fans, it is for the fans, by the fans!


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July 27, 2014, 12:24pm
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So you're changing your stance now? There COULD have been a breach now....? Rob doesn't allude to any fact that he is prepared to share sensitive information at all! You're looking for a conspiracy where there is none!


Not changing stance at all. Read my post properly. I said WOULD not COULD. And the last thing i was inferring was that there was any sort of conspiracy.













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July 27, 2014, 12:24pm

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I miss Bill Carr


Yeah Bill Carr was a good chairman but didn't refuse to play Jevons as it would have activated a further payment to Everton or was that Furnaeux

and who was it that paid Zheng Enhua 12k aweek crazy lol.  That could have crippled the ckub and BC would have been seen in a different light.


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July 27, 2014, 12:26pm

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Thanks Pete I don't object to sensible debate criticism or fact being debated.

I certainly will not at every touch and turn respond to dislikes, misprints or press statement which may not be right, but when there are some that don't have a clue about a distant event and spout their opinion as fact, and it's distasteful not just to me but past directors you may well see me respond.

I love the fans to speculate and debate the club we love, but it's sad that we see the running down of players even before they have signed, managers and those at the the club alike.

Saw one poster that said, if a player didn't sign because they couldn't take criticism then we don't want them. Ge wiz it's hard enough to get them to the club / Grimsby however much we love it, it is not the place everyone wants to come to.

Oh and just for the record for others, I never tried to get the Fishy shut down, just asked for it to be moderated in accordance with reasonable rules. Rules which all sign up to. Rob decided to shut it down in an admission it wasn't moderated sufficiently. Anyone who I made contact with regarding a particular type of posting I naturally pursued with one intent!!! For them to behave. I actually encouraged the New Fishy to start.

I like to see the fans general debate and opinion occasionally, the danger is, so do players and not everyone can take what they read.

Onwards and let's hope upwards with sensible debate..UTM


Who accused you of trying to get the fishy shut down?

It's clear the Parker shares fiasco will never be answered and is now part of the dark past, sitting next to the underhanded ousting of Bill Carr with the installation of spend happy Huxford et al (You - JF exempt of that sad saga).  Without the full time line and facts NO major investor will come forward, are you really oblivious to this.  

The fans will always be divided on the shares issue surrounding MP's departure, those who are pro you, those who are against you and many like me who just want the truth, warts and all. There are always arguments when ever this is raised and you responded to another poster regarding this very issue which, is why I asked the questions.

You are in a position were people will take notice of what you say and will pass judgements on what they see, hear or read.  It is in your best interests to make sure that the media doesn't misquote or take your comments out of context.  Your blasé approach to media has now shed some light on some of your comments, gaff's and how you have been on the fishy.

You talk of players not wanting to come here because they have been run down or scared of being run down.  Do you really want players to come to the club that buckle under the slightest pressure.  We want players at Town who will fight for every blade of grass, who won't give up, we have had enough of players going through the motions and not putting the effort in.

I want the club to succeed, I want you to get every penny back that you have put into the club.  If you are going to call people ignorant at least have the decency to educate them on why they are ignorant.  If you come on fishy you have to accept that you are not going to like some of the responses, your brother sonik handles himself very well on here.

Finally, if you still want to discuss one on one, anything I have ever written on the fishy, the offer of a pint by the canal at Merry Hill, Dudley will be on offer for the next couple of weeks.

Dave.


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July 27, 2014, 12:34pm

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Who accused you of trying to get the fishy shut down?

It's clear the Parker shares fiasco will never be answered and is now part of the dark past, sitting next to the underhanded ousting of Bill Carr with the installation of spend happy Huxford et al (You - JF exempt of that sad saga).  Without the full time line and facts NO major investor will come forward, are you really oblivious to this.  

The fans will always be divided on the shares issue surrounding MP's departure, those who are pro you, those who are against you and many like me who just want the truth, warts and all. There are always arguments when ever this is raised and you responded to another poster regarding this very issue which, is why I asked the questions.

You are in a position were people will take notice of what you say and will pass judgements on what they see, hear or read.  It is in your best interests to make sure that the media doesn't misquote or take your comments out of context.  Your blasé approach to media has now shed some light on some of your comments, gaff's and how you have been on the fishy.

You talk of players not wanting to come here because they have been run down or scared of being run down.  Do you really want players to come to the club that buckle under the slightest pressure.  We want players at Town who will fight for every blade of grass, who won't give up, we have had enough of players going through the motions and not putting the effort in.

I want the club to succeed, I want you to get every penny back that you have put into the club.  If you are going to call people ignorant at least have the decency to educate them on why they are ignorant.  If you come on fishy you have to accept that you are not going to like some of the responses, your brother sonik handles himself very well on here.

Finally, if you still want to discuss one on one, anything I have ever written on the fishy, the offer of a pint by the canal at Merry Hill, Dudley will be on offer for the next couple of weeks.

Dave.


Erm excuse me but where's my invite haha :p


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Erm excuse me but where's my invite haha :p


Open invite unless one on one with JF  


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Open invite unless one on one with JF  


Thanks Marinerz93 I doubt I'll get chance tbh.

well I'll be going to the first home game of the season with the old man so I'll be in the imp unless its shut down would love to bump into some fellow fishies in fact I probably have at some point lol.


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Does it really matter what JF says on here or indeed anywhere else? Nothing he says and nothing that posters say to him will alter the fact that we have become a slightly above average Conference club clinging to solvency by the skin of its teeth. As things stand, that will be our status for the foreseeable future.

All the talk, posts, forums, exhortations to get behind the team and supporters shareholdings in the world will make no difference whatsoever. There is only one person who can do anything about it and if he is serious he should read the title of this thread again before it is too late.

If he wants to see the club in the League with a decent stadium then the one and only way is to put up and shut up. Get the players, get the results, get the points, get the promotion and he will get the supporters.


“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
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Well done on 'getting your facts right'  


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Yeah Bill Carr was a good chairman but didn't refuse to play Jevons as it would have activated a further payment to Everton or was that Furnaeux

and who was it that paid Zheng Enhua 12k aweek crazy lol.  That could have crippled the ckub and BC would have been seen in a different light.


The first was Furneaux. The second was both Doug Everritt and Bryan Huxford who cruelly ousted Bill Carr in that season, two people who are astonishingly always omitted from the intercourse up this club is currently in. Those two have a lot to answer for about the clubs predicament they also sacked Buckley from his second spell after a 1-1 with Portsmouth the second game in to the season! A gaggle of sharp objects those two.


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