Time for JF to put his money where his mouth is!

Quoted from barralad

You ask for realism and then suggest that Mr Fenty and the others don't know that our position isn't what fans of GTFC expect? The only way to further this club for me IS to have a competitive budget so that we stop (or at least slow down) the reliance on one man for our future. Such things do not happen overnight but will eventually see the club on a much firmer footing. Every season that we rely on the benefices of one person we run the risk of the tap being turned off. If you think it doesn't happen look at some of the clubs who have tried to spend their way to the top , often with the money of one person.
I'm not quite sure what you expect anyone to say to JF that will have any effect on the amount of money he is prepared to spend. Would you be prepared to be told if it were your money?

So why don't you and your colleagues on the trust use your board positions to ask Mr Fenty to write off some of the money that he has put into the club during the past 12 years. This would show that his intention is not to cripple the club financially as it currently appears on the balance sheet.

Quoted from TAGG

I don't live in the past but I as a Town fan for over 40 years is proud of our clubs past which is a totally different thing.
I don't revel in our 'misfortunes' I merely try to point out to people like yourself who is responsible for these 'misfortunes'
I support, follow and love Town and always will do.
I would love to start a season with massive optimism but I cant see any positives. It seems to me that our nearest rivals have there teams together with quality signings ready for the seasons start.
We as fans seem to live on broken promises, fiddling about with trialists and Managements target players that don't want to sign for a great club like Town for whatever reasons that apparently aren't financial so why don't they want to come here???????

As I've said elsewhere...we don't need to be reminded...
    

Quoted from barralad

I expected a reply along those lines. Disappointing but that's life I suppose. The decision to give Mr Fenty those shares was made by a vote of the membership. It's called democracy.  I'd better leave you to weep, wail and gnash your teeth about how far we've fallen. Nothing was ever improved by continually looking back.

And nothing was ever improved by accepting mediocrity.

Quoted from barralad

I expected a reply along those lines. Disappointing but that's life I suppose. The decision to give Mr Fenty those shares was made by a vote of the membership. It's called democracy.  I'd better leave you to weep, wail and gnash your teeth about how far we've fallen. Nothing was ever improved by continually looking back.

Perfect, make the bloke telling the truth look like the bad guy with a patronising reply, which I am, and you know it.

Quoted from barralad

Stockport spring to mind. In the same league as us in 2001/02 now in "Whatever it's Called" North...

Luton's "bounce-back" cannot hide the fact that their "regime" were responsible for their calamitous fall because they didn't know right from wrong...

We all know how far we have fallen under JFs stewardship but some see the need to keep reminding us. Pretty pointless exercise in my opinion. Personally I blame Adolf Hitler. Without WW2 we'd have still been in Division 1.

Jimmy Hill didn't help either. Him and his campaign to end the maximum wage. Bah!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Perfect, make the bloke telling the truth look like the bad guy with a patronising reply, which I am, and you know it.

How come only your opinion is allowed to be the truth, I did not realise you attend all the board meetings and are privy to everything that has gone on behind closed doors for the last 12 years.

The truth is people are sick of the pessimistic drivel you spout at every opportunity, Why not change the record and try support the team you say you love so dearly

Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby

How come only your opinion is allowed to be the truth, I did not realise you attend all the board meetings and are privy to everything that has gone on behind closed doors for the last 12 years.

The truth is people are sick of the pessimistic drivel you spout at every opportunity, Why not change the record and try support the team you say you love so dearly

You are mixing up support for the team with valid criticism of the owner.

Two entirely different things.

Quoted from GrimRob

The grass is always greener. If PH had achieved what he had here (two fourth place finishes, and several good cup/FAT runs) at any other club in the division people of here would be crying out for him to be appointed as manager. He remains the best realistic candidate for the job, and another fourth place finish would be a good return for the season.

Any other club would be happy (except maybe Bristol Rovers). But us? Would you be happy if next season ended like the last 2?

Quoted from TAGG

I would love to start a season with massive optimism but I cant see any positives.
    

You're not looking very hard! Play-offs the last two years, FA Cup run and FAT successes, most of last season's squad retained, a solid and stable management structure. A board who are putting in more money that they club receive in income. The bookies make us one of the favourites for promotion.

That's far more than most clubs in our division have. Stop moaning and get on with the job of supporting. We haven't played a game yet, there's every reason to be positive!

Quoted from barralad

Nothing was ever improved by continually looking back.

I'm quoting you but it could just as easily be anyone from the "we are where we are" camp so I apologise if you feel aggrieved.

It is wrong to dwell on the past but equally wrong to accept where we are as some sort of inevitability. The present is part of the continuum but the future can be influenced by the present. If we (JF really I suppose) adopt the non-risk strategy that some are looking for on the grounds that the club could sink further if we don't, then the chances of moving upwards are hammered.

At this point you have to look back to that first season after relegation when the club had money to spend, didn't spend enough and spent some incredibly badly because JF picked the wrong manager and held the purse closed. If we do not learn lessons from that we will be in the Conference or lower for ever.

At some stage every businessman knows they have to speculate to accumulate. My gut feeling on this is that JF is the one who is really living in the past. He got his fingers burned quite badly with Newell and since then has been very reluctant to push the boat out beyond his contingency.

Now, it's his money and he can do with it as he wishes but, if he wants to see something tangible from all those years of financial backing for the club he has in my opinion reached the point of no return. Either he goes for it to attract class acts to the club or he keeps to the same policy and lets it slowly sink into mire with no chance of progress, stadium or anything else.

At the moment JF's choice of manager suits his current policy. Hurst appears to be as lacking in ambition as JF in the way his team plays and the selection of his transfer targets, but it is a bit hard to tell which of JF and PH is the chicken and which is the egg.